Silk Road forums
Discussion => Off topic => Topic started by: drp2p on July 07, 2011, 06:43 am
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This may be a bit controversial, but has anyone considered selling human body parts through SR? There is a huge market for kidneys, livers, eyes, skin, and whatever else that can be extracted from the human body. SR has the potential to connect seller to buyer of this exquisite market. With the number of wars, conflicts, and human deaths on a daily basis, there is a lot going to waste. Why not start a business in human body part acquisitions and sales?
The ethical debate is BS; there is a supply and demand in human body parts. Lets earn a few BitCoins on that extra kidney, after all are you really using it?
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Clearly, human trafficking is against the rules. Dead or alive, human beings are not a commodity sold here.
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Clearly, human trafficking is against the rules.
Is a kidney a human? No. I was hoping for a rational reply.
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Totally ignoring the moral debate, well, doesn't seem like there are many people who visit Silk Road in search of a new kidney. Silk Road gets a bad enough reputation for selling drugs; I don't think selling various body parts would improve that image.
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I don't think selling various body parts would improve that image.
How does a SR popularity contest factor into such a debate? I assure you that somewhere in the world, as I write this reply, someone with a great deal of money is searching for a lifesaving human body part, I also assure you that at this very moment, someone is dying with a usable body part. Putting buyer together with seller is the essence of SR….the beauty of SR is the ability to transcend ideological backwardness while creating a true Capitalistic market.
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I agree that there should be a place to go to sell body parts. Moral issues aside if someone can save another person by giving part of his body where is the harm.I would be more than ready to sell a kidney or part of my liver. I admit I am not doing this for humanitarian reasons, but with the money I can keep my parents out of the nursing home longer.
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I agree that there should be a place to go to sell body parts. Moral issues aside if someone can save another person by giving part of his body where is the harm.I would be more than ready to sell a kidney or part of my liver. I admit I am not doing this for humanitarian reasons, but with the money I can keep my parents out of the nursing home longer.
Altruism none the less...thank you for the support. I think the market in human body parts is larger and more profitable than the selling of drugs (there may be some debate there). As a society, we must kick ideology to the curb and be real with ourselves. What is sad about "idlewild62"'s post is the implied problem with a society that does not pay for elderly care...
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I get it, you're a troll..you're going to eat the body parts. ;D
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How would you obtain fresh body parts?
No one wants a frozen body part? >.>
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How would you obtain fresh body parts?
No one wants a frozen body part? >.>
There is already an industry in place for human body parts. However, like the drug trade, it is underground.
http://www.tissuetransplant.info/body-parts-trafficking.html
http://www.dna4africa.org/human-trafficking
It would make sense that a site like SR work as a liaison between donor and recipient .
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Go build your own marketplace and if "there is a supply and demand" as you say then I'm sure you'll do fine.
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my Zombie only eats "freshly picked" :P
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i read in the news the otherday about a kid trading his kidney for an Ipod or an Iphone..not sure which one...crazy fuckin dayz....if you do a bit of googling there are quite a few people who are willing to sell there kidneys for a big fee
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I need body parts for my pet monster....other than that i think its stupid to even go down that road!!! The problem is when people start getting murdered for their damn kidney or wake up without a liver drugged from ruffies and your parts are on silk road....great idea.
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*puts up store for toenail clippings*
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I can get you a toe. Believe me, you dont want to know the ways. I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, with nail polish.
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Human body parts harms no one.
They save lives.
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Human body parts harms no one.
They save lives.
There are rational doctors around the world who have the skills to transport human body parts with no problems. The problem is found with dogmatic rules in the U.S. and U.K. that have sought to ban such transactions. I assure you that when Apple CEO Steve Jobs needed a liver or kidney a few months ago, he had the money to "secure" the needed organ.
That same ability should be afforded to everyone.
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Just use overnight shipping and put some of those freezer packs in there.
You seem to have this worked out, why don't you list some. I'm sure you'll get a buyer right away.
If there is a black market for these things, I'm sure it exists between people that are qualified to harvest and store such things. I imagine if your Steve Jobs its not about buying an organ on some shady underground website. Its about getting the right amount of money to the right person on the right committee. Who the hell would by an organ from some anonymous vendor?
Now, stems cells on the other hand. I could pop the top on a fetus right now. You got any stem cells? I needs me some immortality.
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I can get you a toe. Believe me, you dont want to know the ways. I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon, with nail polish.
nihilists
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As much as I love the libertarian and free-market principle which would enable willing sellers to offer virtually anything to willing buyers without government interference, in practice it's a bad idea. If you want to sign SR's death warrant, then start selling body parts.
As it is the recent WIRED article was a very mixed blessing. Yes, it alerted thousands of potential users to the existence of SR, and thus guaranteed there will be a huge influx of new buyers and sellers. But it also alerted politicians who started salivating at the thought of how much media coverage they could get if they led a fight to take down that "evil website that is selling those demon drugs to our precious kids!" And they won't care that the necessity of bank accounts/PayPal, the identity verification process and then the problem of acceptance of delivery pose such problems for minors that few if any could ever use SR.
But rest assured that because SR has been revealed to the world, there will be serious official efforts to destroy the site and/or destroy its anonymity. Offering body parts, or kiddie porn, would make the notoriety worse, and would result in even more scrutiny and intensified efforts to thwart SR. Don't do it.
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Offering body parts, or kiddie porn...
Please....there is no connection. One is a psychological malfactor, the other saves lives.
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I can offer a penis!
I don't use it as much as I used to anymore, and its a mighty fine penis. Two kids, and they both came out pretty well.
The balls behind the penis have been snipped for nearly 20 years now, but I like my balls, so they're not for sale.
About 6.5", with the ability to blow a load into any young hottie's throat!
PM if interested...
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If you want to sign SR's death warrant, then start selling body parts.
Offering body parts, or kiddie porn, would make the notoriety worse, and would result in even more scrutiny and intensified efforts to thwart SR.
yea i can just see the feds now ...
OMG guys they are selling body parts - lets really REALLY try to get them now!
you know - like guns, cocaine, heroine, ice, X, pirated shit, news articles, and congressional pressure just was not enough to get things rolling to begin with.
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Clearly t he poll speaks for itself. :P
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you know - like guns, cocaine, heroine, ice, X, pirated shit, news articles, and congressional pressure just was not enough to get things rolling to begin with.
You're grossly underestimating the heat something like that would bring down upon SR. We'd be breaking news everywhere in no time and I think most of us here (which are people buying and selling smallish amounts of drugs) don't want that just yet. Go figure.
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LOL Wtf? So no one thought to mention that vaginas could be bought and sold too?
Kidney? Think bigger!
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Go build your own marketplace and if "there is a supply and demand" as you say then I'm sure you'll do fine.
Exactly. Why should we bother. This site isn't trying to prove anything, just survive....we don't need the whole angry world--not to mention pissed off hacker groups--on our ass. We get a limited amount of good will from libertarians because we provide products which shouldn't be illegal anyway.
Niggerjim and his descendents seem determined to get us into a war. Not going to happen. Trolls should find forums where there a bunch of hysterical newbies wanting to argue this silly shit, or, as this poster said, start your own fucking marketplace.
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I really honestly can't see someone needing an organ saying, "argh I'm dying better check if Silk Road has any kidneys for sale." And then to have a doctor implant it... it's not like organs can just sit around for a long time.
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I really honestly can't see someone needing an organ saying, "argh I'm dying better check if Silk Road has any kidneys for sale." And then to have a doctor implant it... it's not like organs can just sit around for a long time.
LMAO: right...and the packaging...I mean, jesus, can you see one of these aces trying to figure out how to use bubblewrap and box up some kidney he just harvested...mostly I"d just *love* to see the press we'd get...u think we got a couple of politicians without anything better to do on our ass now...try selling your mother-in-law's liver and see how excited they become...
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Was it India that there is a huge blackmarket for kidneys? I can't believe a person would risk that surgery for a few grand. But, I guess when your desperate, you will do anything...
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No. Because there's no way to determine how the body parts were obtained, and like CP, the fact that they're worth money provides an impetus to producing more, and that could involve breaching someones consent => The precautionary principle is necessary.
QED
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:) For the right price, I'm in. Kidney, piece of my liver, skin graphs, blood, any other fluids, lung, whatever. Did I leave anything out? I AM IN IT TO WIN IT BABY!!! We can agree on a price and medical services, details, details, and more details. We can then go to the hospital and get it done. And my bank account will SKYROCKET!! I'd update my will and go for it. It's a win, win situation for EVERYONE involved. Put it in the open and it becomes safer. Transplants...... Happen EVERYDAY!!! Doctors make money on it. The hospital, tons of others I am sure. It's a money game. And I'd like in on it. I know I can help some RICH person and there family. Nothing wrong with helping out. I am also an organ donor. What's the problem? I didn't die and got paid?
OKAY. SAY I DID IT AND IT WENT WRONG. My bad. I knew what I was getting into. It's risky. But it's my body and I alone choose what I do with it. So if I die on the table or worse later on after lingering, that what wills are for. D.N.R!! Damn!!
I also agree w/assisted suicide. It's your call when you want to go. IT'S MY CHOICE AND MY CHOICE ALONE!!!!!
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The only way for this to actually work is not through a system of posting items for sale. Rather, exactly the opposite method would work.
A site would need to be constructed where the buyer would post what they need.
Examples:
(“I need a kidney ASAP, I have been on dialysis for 10 years, my doctor gives me 6 weeks to live.
I am willing to pay 10 k for the organ, which would include proper shipping, 3k finders fee after implant, and 3% to the website.
Age: 24
Location: USA
My doctor: Alfred E. Newman, MD.”)
Another example might look like:
(Seeking a penis: My ex-wife just made international news when she cut mine off and tossed it in the garbage disposable. Color not important, larger the better.)
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ok uh.... fucked up. theres alot of things we "should" have the right to do, and DO have the right to do, assuming we dont get caught... that we really shouldnt be doing. if the argument is honestly HONESTLY about saving lives, and we are debating possibilities within THIS community, it would be far more constructive and rational to begin seeking out DOCTORS who know what the fuck theyre doing, and get a bunch of pros on the side of the under-the-radar movement. opiate users will tell you that if youre seeking true pain treatment that the doctor isnt giving you, do you go buy a bunch of heroin to self-medicate? no. thats just for fun. you find some actual clean, legit drugs, combine with physical therapy, and try your best to self-medicate in an educated way. selling human body parts via usps is fucking barbarian and does NOT lead us towards a more enlightened self-governing society. if anyone wants to work on making me a fleshlight out of a real vagina however, please PM me and i will buy ;) ~smod